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originally from evansville, indiana, for "congressional quarterly." next question, mr. starks. >> host: yes, one of the reasons it's been difficult for congress to cut grants is because police, firefighters and rescue personnel are a powerful constituency, and the idea of saying no to them seems ridiculous to them, seems like it would be bad for them politically. i'm wondering, though, how much the wireless carriers who also have their own interests in spectrum, they have their own political weight to bring to bear. how much in this spectrum debate are they allies and how much are they the enemies? >> guest: well, i think some of each. the, some of the major carriers are very supportive of our efforts because they have a vision where it would be beneficial to the public, the public safety community and to their business interests for us to partner with them at some point to build out this nationwide network. those that have that vision, of course, we're very pleased with that. unfortunately, there are some in that commercial world that are looking at it what we believe is more selfishly to
officer and ten as the homeland security reporter originally from evansville indiana congressional quarterly. next question mr. stark. >> yes, if you look it's difficult for congress because the police and firefighters and rescue personnel are a powerful constituency and it's ridiculous politically. i'm wondering how much the wireless carriers who also have their own spectrum have their own political weight to bring to bear, how much in the spectrum debate are the allies and how much are they the enemies? >> i think some of each. some of the major carriers are very supportive of the efforts because they had a video where it would be beneficial for the public community than to their business interest for. of course we are very pleased with that and there are some in the commercial world that are looking at it that what we believe ms. moore selfishly to deal with their particular needs as a company and when that happens that is surprising to us. we have more support than we had detractors, and that's very helpful. >> i would never consider any of the public safety communications carr
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